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    <title>Changing the world by carlosmoret</title>
    <pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:33:28 +0100</pubDate>
    <link>http://manifesto2009.pes.org/fr/in-the-spotlight/post/579/#comment680</link>
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    <description><![CDATA[<p>We <strong>are</strong> changing the World! don't dispair. The problem is what kind of a world is it. Globalization is new, we don't know what is it going to look like. But when the Industrial Revolution took place, people didn't know what it was going to look like. Socialists (and I use the word in the <strong>PES</strong>ocialism sense) were succesfull in humanizing it: We went from an 84hr week to thirtysomething, paid holydays, retirement benefits, social security, you name it! It was within national borders that this was achieved. Today that national borders fade, we have to find another way. Now it is up to us to do it, Europe and the PES are our tools. Of course the PPE does not go our way, but we have to put up with it. Social progress has to come in a democratic way.</p><p>Europe is a fantastic experiment. We knew empires, small kingdoms fighting with each other, monarchies of devine right, then nation states. Their means was war. The european experience is the first in human history in which war is not an option. I am certain that by 2020 Europe will be the world reference and that's only 12 years from now. We are almost 500 million healthy, educates rich people living in a space of peace that does not export war. 6 countries (5,5 because Germany was divided) to start with, then 3 knocked at our door, then another, then two, then 3 more, then ten, two came later and 8 more are waiting in line, and many other hoping to qualify. That I call success. Still, we have a long way to go until we change the UN, WTO and other global organizations into democratic organizations in which the peoples of the world can organize. We are far away, but we are in the good track. Let's keep working, our next deadline are the european elections in not quite a year's time. Let's make a good campaign with a good manifesto.</p><p> </p><p>Carlos, in Paris </p>]]></description>
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    <title>The European project is a bargain by chourka</title>
    <pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:33:28 +0100</pubDate>
    <link>http://manifesto2009.pes.org/fr/in-the-spotlight/post/579/#comment678</link>
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    <description><![CDATA[<p>As told in the article, the European Union is the place in the world where the solidarity is a core common value. It is so true that it has been put in good position by the Convention '96 in the European Charter of fundamental rights. </p><p>But, if you look closely the Amsterdam Treaty and Maastricht criteria are not about solidarity among countries facing difficulties. Worst, penalties are given to countries having a too big deficit unable to cope with it. </p><p>Originally &mdash;and it is what it makes it unique&mdash; the Union has been founded on <strong>Peace as a goal and <em>de facto</em> Solidarity as a tool.</strong></p><p>&nbsp;You might miss something if you do not see the EU as a huge bargain. The wealthiest members pay for the poorest and in regard each member-state shares its soveignity with the others. The EU is much more than a sole economical project. It <strong>is a political project !</strong> </p><p>--------</p><p>Comme cela est dit dans l'article, l'Union europ&eacute;enne est l'endroit sur la plan&egrave;te o&ugrave; la solidarit&eacute; est une valeur commune essentielle. C'est tellement vrai qu'elle a &eacute;t&eacute; mise en bonne position dans la Charte europ&eacute;enne des Droits fondamentaux par la premi&egrave;re Convention.</p><p>Mais, si tu regardes attentivement, le Trait&eacute; d'Amsterdam et surtout les crit&egrave;res de Maastricht sur la monnaie unique ne parlent pas du tout de solidarit&eacute; en faveur de pays rencontrant des difficult&eacute;s. Pire, des amendes sont impos&eacute;es aux pays qui n'arrivent pas &agrave; r&eacute;soudre rapidement un deficit conjoncturel.</p><p>A&nbsp; l'origine &mdash;et c'est ce qui rend le projet europ&eacute;en unique&mdash; l'Union a &eacute;t&eacute; fond&eacute;e sur <strong>la Paix comme objectif et la solidarit&eacute; de fait comme un moyen.</strong></p><p>Tu risques de faire une analyse erron&eacute;e, si tu ne vois pas que l'UE est un immense &eacute;change. Les plus riches paient pour les plus pauvres et en &eacute;change chaque Etat-membre partage sa souverainet&eacute; avec les autres. L'Union est bien plus qu'un seul projet economique. <strong>C'est un projet politique !&nbsp;</strong></p>]]></description>
    <author>chourka</author>
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    <title>Maintenir la pression sur les état pour limiter les impôts by Somerset</title>
    <pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:33:28 +0100</pubDate>
    <link>http://manifesto2009.pes.org/fr/in-the-spotlight/post/569/#comment667</link>
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    <description><![CDATA[<p>Si un &eacute;tat parvient &agrave; faire fonctionner son administration avec un taux d'imposition faible, pourquoi le contraindre &agrave; &eacute;lever son taux ? Parce que l'administration des pays voisins n'est pas aussi efficace et a besoin de plus de moyens pour fonctionner ? </p><p>Est-ce qu'une forme de concurrence entre les &eacute;tats sur les taux d'imposition est seulement n&eacute;gative ? Si nos voisins imposent peu, cela nous fait h&eacute;siter &agrave; cr&eacute;er de nouveaux pr&eacute;l&egrave;vement fiscaux. Cela contraint les administration &agrave; faire mieux avec autant de moyens, cela les pousse &agrave; l'efficacit&eacute;. Je constate que dans mon entreprise, c'est parce que nos concurrents font mieux que nous que nous nous mobilisons et am&eacute;liorons nos m&eacute;thodes. C'est un moteur pour aller vers le mieux.</p><p>Alors pourquoi les institutions europ&eacute;ennes devraient mettre leur nez dans la fiscalit&eacute; des &eacute;tats ? Pourquoi ne pas laisser aux &eacute;tats la responsabilit&eacute; de choisir les taux d'imposition qu'ils souhaitent ? Ce serait toujours au peuple de d&eacute;cider comment il veut &ecirc;tre impos&eacute; (beaucoup d'impots pour beaucoup d'&eacute;tat, peu pour moins d'&eacute;tat). Quel est l'avantage de piloter la fiscalit&eacute; de fa&ccedil;on centralis&eacute;e &agrave; Bruxelles ? Ne pourrait-on pas rester unis dans la disversit&eacute; fiscale ?</p><p> Merci pour vos r&eacute;ponses,</p><p> Nicolas</p>]]></description>
    <author>Somerset</author>
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    <title>Deep anger by chourka</title>
    <pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:33:28 +0100</pubDate>
    <link>http://manifesto2009.pes.org/fr/in-the-spotlight/post/554/#comment661</link>
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    <description><![CDATA[<p>Even if it comes from a French, I 've to say that 53,4% (the &quot;no&quot; vote) of 53,1% (the turnout) of 4 Millions inhabitants in a block of nearly 500 millions it is pretty nothing!</p><p>And it's make many people upset to see the Irishmen, those who received billions of subsidies from the EU, giving back a 2 fingers.</p><p>People of Ireland has to understand that the maximal risk now is to become more and more marginalized.&nbsp;</p>]]></description>
    <author>chourka</author>
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    <title>Et vive Nameur po tot by Jean-Pierre Molle</title>
    <pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:33:28 +0100</pubDate>
    <link>http://manifesto2009.pes.org/fr/in-the-spotlight/post/557/#comment660</link>
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    <description><![CDATA[<p>Bravo, cher Jo&euml;l, de prendre la parole au nom de tous les militants d'un vrai socialisme d&eacute;mocratique.&nbsp; Puissent nos dirigeants se souvenir qu'il n'y aura d'Europe forte que sociale et qu'il n'est plus temps de faire des cadeaux aux entreprises.</p><p>Au contraire, il est plus que temps de combattre les atteintes aux droits des plus faibles et des plus d&eacute;munis : flexibilit&eacute;, semaine des 60 heures, n&eacute;o-lib&eacute;ralisme, chute du pouvoir d'achat,...</p><p>Il faut r&eacute;concilier l'Europe et les citoyens, surtout ceux de base, pour &eacute;viter de nouveaux clashs irlandais.</p><p>Jean-Pierre Molle</p>]]></description>
    <author>Jean-Pierre Molle</author>
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    <title>After Lisbon by mochinho</title>
    <pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:33:28 +0100</pubDate>
    <link>http://manifesto2009.pes.org/fr/in-the-spotlight/post/554/#comment659</link>
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    <description><![CDATA[<span>On 13.06.08 the results of the Irish referendum on the ratification of the Treaty of Lisbon (or: Reform Treaty, in the following: ToL) have been published. 46.6 % voted yes, 53.4 % against the ToL.</span><span>&nbsp;</span><span>As a result, the process of the European unification is slowing down again after the French and Dutch rejection of the Treaty Establishing a Constitution for Europe (TCE) in 2005 whose substitute was the ToL.</span><span>&nbsp;</span><span>The main reason why Ireland has voted against the ToL seems to be a huge information gap on European affairs in general and especially on the ToL itself. To bridge this gap is quite a Sisyphus work for European friendly politicians and stakeholders. Now the Irish vote has to be exactly analysed to deliver a suitable solution for the problem the Irish referendum has caused.</span><span>&nbsp;</span><span>Now it is questionable which solutions could be focused on. There seems to be some options which are mentioned in the following, but they are not claimed to be complete.</span><span>&nbsp;</span><span>1. Second referendum (&ldquo;Nice II&rdquo;)</span><span>&nbsp;</span><span>There are parallels to the Irish referendum on the Treaty of Nice. Therefore it would be not unlikely that there will be a second plebiscite on the ToL as there was a second one on the Treaty of Nice. Against this could be held that in a democracy the will of the people must not be ignored and therefore it would be disrespectful to let the people vote until the result matches the interests of others. Thus the referenda on the TCE in France and the Netherlands have not been repeated. However, it has to be kept in mind that Ireland had voted for the Treaty of Nice the second time.</span><span>&nbsp;</span><span>2. Subsequent negotiations (&ldquo;Europa &agrave; la carte I&rdquo;)</span><span>&nbsp;</span><span>Another option could be subsequent negotiations by the EU with the Republic of Ireland to gain a compromise that this member state could accept. However, this strategy may cause the claim of other member states to be treated in the same way which could lead to cherry picking. In question would be what would be left from the ToL then.</span><span>&nbsp;</span><span>3. Enhanced cooperation according to Art. 43 ff. TEU, 11 f. TEC (&ldquo;Union of Unions/Europe of two speeds&rdquo;)</span><span>&nbsp;</span><span>Not unlikely seems that the ToL could be a framework for an enhanced cooperation for all member states which have already ratified or will ratify the Treaty on the legal basis of Art. 43 ff. TEU, 11 f. TEC. The Treaty of Nice would still be in force then.</span><span>&nbsp;</span><span>4. Withdrawal of the Republic of Ireland from the EU</span><span>&nbsp;</span><span>Furthermore Ireland could withdraw from the EU. A withdrawal is not codified in the TEU, the TEC, and the EAEC, but in Art. 1 No. 58 ToL. Therefore a solution would have to be found on the basis of public international law. This could happen in different ways.</span><span>&nbsp;</span><span>a) EFTA and EEA (&ldquo;EU 27 &ndash; 1&rdquo;)</span><span>&nbsp;</span><span>Ireland</span><span> withdraws from the EU according to Art. 62 VCLT and becomes member of the EFTA according to Art. 56 EFTA Convention. Then the Republic adheres to the EEA according to Art. 128 EEA Agreement.</span><span>&nbsp;</span><span>b) Pure public international law approach (&ldquo;Europe &agrave; la carte II&rdquo;)</span><span>&nbsp;</span><span>Ireland</span><span> withdraws from the EU according to Art. 62 VCLT and makes bilateral, sectoral accords.</span><span>&nbsp;</span><span>c) Full withdrawal (&ldquo;clausula rebus sic stantibus&rdquo;)</span><span>&nbsp;</span><span>Ireland</span><span> withdraws fully from the EU according to Art. 62 VCLT.</span>]]></description>
    <author>mochinho</author>
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    <title>Support from Paris by chourka</title>
    <pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:33:28 +0100</pubDate>
    <link>http://manifesto2009.pes.org/fr/in-the-spotlight/post/536/#comment652</link>
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    <description><![CDATA[<p>We are strongly backing you in this last week campaign. Voters in Ireland should understand that they have in their hands our common destiny and it is a fragile one...</p><p>&nbsp;This video made by the Labour is pretty good :&nbsp;</p><p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etRg4_r7xbw" target="_blank" title="Video to vote YEs to Lsibon Treaty">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etRg4_r7xbw</a>&nbsp;</p>]]></description>
    <author>chourka</author>
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    <title>We need you! by lazett</title>
    <pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:33:28 +0100</pubDate>
    <link>http://manifesto2009.pes.org/fr/in-the-spotlight/post/536/#comment651</link>
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    <description><![CDATA[Hope the YES side will won the referendum! Europe needs the Treaty and the Treaty needs Ireland :)]]></description>
    <author>lazett</author>
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    <title>thanks for sharing by Asynjen</title>
    <pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:33:28 +0100</pubDate>
    <link>http://manifesto2009.pes.org/fr/in-the-spotlight/post/518/#comment649</link>
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    <description><![CDATA[Wauw, must have been an interesting discussion! Thanks for sharing the ideas from the classroom! ]]></description>
    <author>Asynjen</author>
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    <title>Good idea! by lazett</title>
    <pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:33:28 +0100</pubDate>
    <link>http://manifesto2009.pes.org/fr/in-the-spotlight/post/518/#comment648</link>
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    <description><![CDATA[Nice to see that the PES consultation reached school! :) What a way to promote social dialogue and implement democratic values! Hope others will follow the example!]]></description>
    <author>lazett</author>
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    <title>State and the Church  by valentina abita</title>
    <pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:33:28 +0100</pubDate>
    <link>http://manifesto2009.pes.org/fr/in-the-spotlight/post/499/#comment640</link>
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    <description><![CDATA[If public school in Italy is getting worse, shifting more to private and catholic schools will not improve the education system. I believe that there is not guarantee of quality in private education and above all most of the people can not afford it. The State should think about a serious reform of the education sector, focusing on and investing in public schools, since they are the only place where everyone`s merit, regardless of its socio-economic status, could be promoted.]]></description>
    <author>valentina abita</author>
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    <title>Excited to read the contribution....  by Asynjen</title>
    <pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:33:28 +0100</pubDate>
    <link>http://manifesto2009.pes.org/fr/in-the-spotlight/post/493/#comment639</link>
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    <description><![CDATA[I think I must have mentioned my admiration for PSOE and their progressive ideas several times by now :-) As Valenciano says: it's a reference for Europe. Therefore, I will look very much forward to reading the Spanish contribution to the PES manifesto.]]></description>
    <author>Asynjen</author>
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    <title>Participate in your own language by avalon</title>
    <pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:33:28 +0100</pubDate>
    <link>http://manifesto2009.pes.org/fr/in-the-spotlight/post/471/#comment630</link>
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    <description><![CDATA[<p>It's great that national parties give the opportunity to their members to become active in their own language :)</p><p>This is indeed a great step to envolve more and more people in the European elections. Way to go, PASOK!</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p>]]></description>
    <author>avalon</author>
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    <title>Looks great by tolerance</title>
    <pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:33:28 +0100</pubDate>
    <link>http://manifesto2009.pes.org/fr/in-the-spotlight/post/471/#comment629</link>
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    <description><![CDATA[Unfortunately, I don't speak Greek, but the website look very cool! I'm sure it will be a welcome opportunity for Greek party members. ]]></description>
    <author>tolerance</author>
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    <title>New community by green_beans</title>
    <pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:33:28 +0100</pubDate>
    <link>http://manifesto2009.pes.org/fr/in-the-spotlight/post/402/#comment598</link>
    <guid>http://manifesto2009.pes.org/fr/in-the-spotlight/post/402/#comment598</guid>
    <description><![CDATA[Hey - great! Well done, Romanian activists! I'm new to PES activists, but it sure looks interesting. ]]></description>
    <author>green_beans</author>
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    <title>The big issues of the election by davidvaughan</title>
    <pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:33:28 +0100</pubDate>
    <link>http://manifesto2009.pes.org/fr/in-the-spotlight/post/377/#comment577</link>
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    <description><![CDATA[<p>Hi fairness, what issues are big depends on your point of view. But both the main candidates think congestion and transport is a big issue, and they're both interested in the related environmental problems. The Olympics is also a talking point - how it's funded, how it's organised, and policed. Finally, the affordability of housing concerns them both.</p><p>Boris Johnson talks about crime rates quite a lot, and says he'll reduce them. He also puts a little more emphasis on health, although it's not a big point of difference between them in my view.</p><p>Livingstone is interested in showy events that bring tourists in and make London famous. His manifesto is also slightly more biased to issues in the &quot;culture war&quot; - such as race and socialised services.</p><p>Here's Ken's manifesto: <a href="http://www.kenlivingstone.com/policies/culture_and_sport" target="_blank">http://www.kenlivingstone.com/policies/culture_and_sport</a></p><p>Here's Boris's: <a href="http://www.backboris.com/policy/index.php" target="_blank">http://www.backboris.com/policy/index.php</a></p><p>From my point of view, as a supporter of &quot;clean&quot; government and transparency, it will be impossible for me to vote for Livingstone since he has transferred so much money into obscure organisations and doesn't seem to be able to account for it. Members of his cabinet and advisers are under investigation for fraud. City Hall seems to be a den of thieves! (I can say that in a general sense, can't I? No names mentioned, but feel free to moderate this bit of my post if it's close to the bone).</p><p>Good government needs to be clean and transparent - this is a fundamental requirement for the making of good decisions which maximise benefit for all. If an administration tries to conceal its activities and its spending, it seems inevitable to me that the decisions it makes are unlikely to benefit people as well as they might.</p>]]></description>
    <author>davidvaughan</author>
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    <title>Go, London! by fairness</title>
    <pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:33:28 +0100</pubDate>
    <link>http://manifesto2009.pes.org/fr/in-the-spotlight/post/377/#comment575</link>
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    <description><![CDATA[London is certainly an important European city - good luck to you, Noel, and other Labour campaigners! Can you tell us a bit more about the atmosphere in London? What are the big issues of the election?]]></description>
    <author>fairness</author>
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    <title>All the best! by Asynjen</title>
    <pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:33:28 +0100</pubDate>
    <link>http://manifesto2009.pes.org/fr/in-the-spotlight/post/377/#comment574</link>
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    <description><![CDATA[These are exciting days in London! I will definetely keep my fingers crossed for Ken Livingstone on May 1st!]]></description>
    <author>Asynjen</author>
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    <title>Les militants du PSE en marche! by Bobcat</title>
    <pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:33:28 +0100</pubDate>
    <link>http://manifesto2009.pes.org/fr/in-the-spotlight/post/369/#comment539</link>
    <guid>http://manifesto2009.pes.org/fr/in-the-spotlight/post/369/#comment539</guid>
    <description><![CDATA[Bravo pour cette initiative! Tous les partis membres du PSE devraient s'y mettre aussi, afin qu'on entende la voix de la base!]]></description>
    <author>Bobcat</author>
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    <title>Way to go, PES activists Paris! by Asynjen</title>
    <pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:33:28 +0100</pubDate>
    <link>http://manifesto2009.pes.org/fr/in-the-spotlight/post/369/#comment538</link>
    <guid>http://manifesto2009.pes.org/fr/in-the-spotlight/post/369/#comment538</guid>
    <description><![CDATA[Well done for the manifesto meeting with! I hope you had an inspiring debate and will submit your ideas to this consultation. I will look forward to reading them! ]]></description>
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